What have they done to them? Last time I tried them, they were pretty good and I wore two and they lasted me through the game convention and I realized I only needed to wear one. So I did and they held fine but this time they are not holding well. twice they have leaked on me. I get a wet spot on my pants when I sit and I decided I am going to double diaper and not buy this brand again and next time stick with Always Discreet since those seemed to hold fine for a pull up. Damn diaper companies screwed up another diaper. I wonder why the pull up ones are good and these are not but perhaps I don’t wear them long enough to see because I am used to pull ups not holding well. I will start double diapering to see how well they hold with two.